A Letter on Judging
July 17, 2012, 3:10 pm
Filed under: Judging, Lordship Salvation, Works Righteousness

by Scott Price


Several things come to mind when reading your brief statement dated 12-29-99 which you titled GOD ALONE KNOWS WHO ARE SAVED NOT ANYONE ELSE.

The title is not necessarily a true statement. The thief on the cross was saved and is in Heaven. Judas Iscariot was not saved therefore is not in Heaven. The Apostle Paul was saved and is in Heaven. There are probably many more Scriptural examples on both sides that could be mentioned but some how I do not think this is what the issue is because of the context of your statement.

I imagine you are referring to the current controversy going on in many e-group discussions concerning judgments of saved and lost. In that frame of thought I will only mention one text, “Beware of false prophets……. ye shall KNOW THEM by their fruits…” (emphasis mine) Matt 7:15-16 KJV. This is a command of Christ. My question is, how can we KNOW who a false prophet is unless we make a judgment? Are false prophets saved or lost? Was Christ trying to confuse us or is modern mainstream evangelicalism doing that? Do false prophets preach a false gospel of sinking sand like Matt 7:24-27 refers to? What about the same chapter where it says “Not everyone that saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of Heaven” (v-21). What are today’s false prophets saying? Probably what the false prophet said in verse 22: “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name, and in thy name cast out devils, and in thy name done many wonderful works?” WORKS, WORKS, and more WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is the sinking sand. That is the wide gate that leads to destruction (v-13). That is the main fruit of the false prophet. That is what the vast majority of religion is preaching. That is what we hold to naturally by birth – SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!!!!!!!!

Most so called “Christians” believe in a form of works righteousness and that is why we can NOT take for granted all who say Lord, Lord are saved. The command is to beware. What is in the heart (mind) comes out by way of the mouth. False professors will reveal the object of their faith by what constantly is flowing out their mouth – WORKS, WORKS, and more WORKS.

There are many false christs being preached today which are not the true Christ of the Scriptures. People have formed an idol of their imaginations and pray to a god that cannot save. Their god is sort of like themselves but maybe just a wee bit weaker.

You seemed to have a negative comment to intellectual assent? I hope you are not going down the road of “faith is believing in something we do not understand”, or “we believe with our heart and not our heads”.

Recently I received an article from a “Reformed” man that said (and I am paraphrasing, it is real close) – “A person can be saved while holding to the belief that he is saved by his works”. This is what I am commanded to beware of. Their mouths must be stopped!

We have explicit teachings in the scripture of what the gospel IS and what the gospel is NOT. This is one way that I know of that we can use as a basis to determine who we stick our hand out and call them brother. To promote a false prophet in their false gospel is not love, but rather, hate. Let us also warn those who would condition salvation on the work of KNOWING certain things, even if those things are true. This is very subtle. We are given an understanding to know God (1 John 5:20). All the conditions in salvation were already met in the Person of Christ. Thank God salvation by grace is conditioned on Christ alone. This indeed is good news.

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II Timothy 2:19 But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.” 20 Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for honorable use, some for dishonorable. 21 Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable,[d] he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.

Comment by markmcculley

Bill Parker: A person might ask, “Am I one of God’s elect?” The answer can only come from God’s testimony. God the Holy Spirit gives spiritual life to all of God’s elect. He quickens them. He then brings them to conversion – God-given faith and true repentance – by the preaching of the Gospel. This regeneration (quickening) and conversion together make up the new birth.

Those, such as the Primitive Baptists, who try to put a distance of time between regeneration and conversion, as if to say that sinners could be regenerated and not believe the Gospel, are in direct opposition to God’s Word and God’s glory. They themselves do not love the Gospel because they claim that God’s elect are saved without it, and they speak peace to multitudes where there is no peace based on God’s testimony. The Bible states plainly that the wrath of God abides upon all who persist in unbelief of the Gospel –

John 3:36 — He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Any who claim salvation for themselves and/or for others without believing the Gospel and without true repentance do not evidence the faith given to God’s elect and do not love the truth. They claim salvation under “another gospel,” a false gospel, and this is evidence of being lost (Gal. 1:6-8). Without a Holy Spirit given knowledge of the true Christ and without belief of the Gospel, there is no salvation (2 John 9). God’s elect will be brought to salvation by the Holy Spirit in regeneration and conversion.

So, how can I know if I am one of God’s elect? How can I know if I have been born again by the Spirit of God? Do you believe God’s Gospel? Have you repented from dead works and idolatry? Will you speak peace where sinners are not submitted to the only ground of peace – the imputed righteousness of Christ revealed in the Gospel? Do you walk by the rule of the Gospel (Gal. 6:14-16)? The first evidence of divine election is sanctification of the Holy Spirit and belief of this truth. God’s elect are set apart by the Holy Spirit in the new birth, and this is evidenced by belief in and love of the Gospel. This is what divides God’s elect from those who remain in unbelief (1 Cor. 1:18-22).

http://www.rofgrace.com/articles/main?vid=GBUETKRAEGMWVXKUDALAA

Comment by markmcculley

I would sum up this section like this. One of the greatest proofs of the truth of the doctrines emphasized by Calvin, what is known as ‘Calvinism’ – though I have already said I do not like these terms – is John Wesley. He was a man who was saved in spite of his muddled and erroneous thinking. The grace of God saved him in spite of himself. That is Calvinism! If you say, as a Calvinist, that a man is saved by his understanding of doctrine you are denying Calvinism. He is not. We are all saved in spite of what we are in every respect. Thus it comes to pass that men who can be so muddled, because they bring in their own human reason, as John Wesley and others did, are saved men and Christians, as all of us are, because it is ‘all of the grace of God’ and in spite of us.”
D. M. Lloyd-Jones, The Puritans: Their Origins and Successors (Carlisle, Penn: Banner of Truth, 1991), 208.

Comment by markmcculley

Contrary to popular opinion, verse 9 is not talking about Heaven. Nobody but Christ, who descended from heaven, is now in heaven. Verse 9 is more about the knowledge of the gospel God gives to elect sinners.

I Cor 2:9 But, as it is written,

“What no eye has seen, nor ear heard,
nor the heart of man imagined,
what God has prepared for those who love him”—
10 these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. 11 For who knows a person’s thoughts except the spirit of that person, which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might understand the things freely given us by God. 13 And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who are spiritual.

14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

Comment by markmcculley

Hebrews 11:39 And all these, though commended through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40 since God had provided something better for us, that apart from us they should not be made perfect.

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